Curse

Div · Jan 22, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

If someone wants to pay for a run to kaineng, that's his decision. Who cares? If you're jealous of the people doing the runs, do it yourself and you'll find it's not big money like you think it is (at least not the kaineng runs).

Darkobra · Jan 22, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

I'm not generally jealous of immoral idiots.

Big_Iron · Jan 22, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I-don't-care...

chowmein69 · Jan 22, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

i like runners that run me to droks.

ensoriki · Jan 22, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

I thought this was a rant on people who run in pvp >.<
and I was chargin malaysia too T_T

Anyways, runners are fine sometimes, if you want to run The Wilds fine with me since I hate that mission.

ValaOfTheFens · Jan 22, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

They provide an extremely valuble service. Sometimes you just have to get to a place but can't get there on your own. I needed Tat armor last year(before insignia were in every campaign) and w/o the run I got to Drok's it just wouldn't have happened. Radiant insiginia were over 1k each and so 1.5k armor seemed a more sensible solution.

Malice Black · Jan 22, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Good runners are useful. Bring back LBS runners. They were cocky bastards, but they knew their shit.

wanmoke · Jan 22, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Totally fine with it usually, as long as the runner is charging a good price. And if I can't find one, well, I fight my way myself.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 22, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

I have only gotten one run in my gw time and it was from a guy trying it out so we said sure we will come along. Got ran from LA to beacon's....well we had to help out a few times, but it was fun.

Runs for areas like ascalon on non- tyrians, the mission towns in the desert, toa and such are just fine since its just time you are cutting out----you CAN do them without much effort, just need the time.

Areas that you have not been to such as docks for armor, gate of desolation, LA from ascalon and such ....NO NO. the game was set up so that you need to progress to get to these places, runners bypass the central story line of these areas.

My take on it is if you cant get there by yourself with your current level/skills you are not meant to get there yet and running a character ahead of the story line is a NO NO.

Aera Lure · Jan 22, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Good runners are useful. Bring back LBS runners. They were cocky bastards, but they knew their shit.

We werent cocky.

Many of my long term friends over the years were players I met while running them somewhere. More than half of my friends list even still. I took a lot of care to be both cordial and efficient. Some of us still play, others retired. I really enjoyed those days. Thanks for the compliment, even if it was a half compliment.

Brought back a little nostalgia.

Kusandaa · Jan 22, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I have only gotten one run in my gw time and it was from a guy trying it out so we said sure we will come along. Got ran from LA to beacon's....well we had to help out a few times, but it was fun.

Runs for areas like ascalon on non- tyrians, the mission towns in the desert, toa and such are just fine since its just time you are cutting out----you CAN do them without much effort, just need the time.

Areas that you have not been to such as docks for armor, gate of desolation, LA from ascalon and such ....NO NO. the game was set up so that you need to progress to get to these places, runners bypass the central story line of these areas.

My take on it is if you cant get there by yourself with your current level/skills you are not meant to get there yet and running a character ahead of the story line is a NO NO.

What if you don't like the storyline? I don't like it at all, I'm sorry, but the GW Storyline is really boring for me. Questing becomes a pain when you've done it for the 10th time when you take your 10th character through the PvE storyline... to access spots to either a) farm b) help others c) get skills d) get armor.

So in general, I like runners. Not so much into mission running, because I can do it myself, but I can't run from outpost to outpost to save my life.

Malice Black · Jan 22, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

We werent cocky.

Many of my long term friends over the years were players I met while running them somewhere. More than half of my friends list even still. I took a lot of care to be both cordial and efficient. Some of us still play, others retired. I really enjoyed those days. Thanks for the compliment, even if it was a half compliment.

Brought back a little nostalgia.

Heh gotta be nice to LBS, he was one of a few people that had more money then me

Hanso was a bit of a bitch though lol evryone agrees with that

Edit - New title? Guru? I am the Guru, you're all banned for being bad

Xx_Sorin_xX · Jan 22, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Selket

i hate runners

the flag & stand r dum & useless

morale is silly

lol /joke?

12 chars

Red Sonya · Jan 22, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Running should be eliminated and GWEN is a good idea of how to do that with requiring faction points to be able to get the gear from there. If they had done that with Prophecies there wouldn't be that many people buying runs to Droks. Bring back the key system as well like Factions introduced. That stopped a chitload of running through the content and I liked it best. They should also implement faction points required to buy weapons from the weaponsmiths as well. This prevents lowbies from getting those maxed weapons for 5 plat and a handful of resources.

Aera Lure · Jan 22, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Hanso was a bit of a bitch though lol evryone agrees with that

I dont.

Hanso experienced lots of drama though, so I will leave it at that. Drama and having to deal with it daily = bad. I was an officer, avoided drama (mostly), stayed out of trouble and simply loved to run for the sake of it. Moved on simply to spend all my time playing instead of at least half my time running, but I miss the old guild (mind you I love the one I am in now). Good times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Edit - New title? Guru? I am the Guru, you're all banned for being bad

Woo. Guru.

Operative 14 · Jan 22, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Running should be eliminated and GWEN is a good idea of how to do that with requiring faction points to be able to get the gear from there. If they had done that with Prophecies there wouldn't be that many people buying runs to Droks. Bring back the key system as well like Factions introduced. That stopped a chitload of running through the content and I liked it best. They should also implement faction points required to buy weapons from the weaponsmiths as well. This prevents lowbies from getting those maxed weapons for 5 plat and a handful of resources.

Give me one, logical, reason why these are bad things, please.

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I appreciate runners because they are people that are able to do something a good bit of the community neither have the time, patience, or skill for. Runners provide a service in the game that really helps a lot of people, and I commend them for it. I have a feeling GW would have been mostly abandoned a while ago if it weren't for people being able to start new characters as easily as running allows.

I admit, when I first started the game, I shared the opinion of many people on this forum; the runners were wrong, and they kept people from playing the game like they should. Then I started my 3rd character....

However, I do take issue with people getting run through the first time they play through a game. And that's the only group that would take advantage of a Market Place to KC Runner, so it really is a scam targeted at new players.

I MP I · Jan 22, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Runners are great. If you have the money, and just don't feel like going through a specific mission or w/e (especially if you get bored after 10 minutes of playing like I do), pay for a run. Options are a good thing.

pumpkin pie · Jan 22, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

Give me one, logical, reason why these are bad things, please.

it is bad because, my logical assumption if its the player's first character that:

1) when they get run, they don't use their character to fight, hence they lack the practice that is needed to get them to where they are. hence we get un-skilled players in the end game area, hence spoiling the PUG experience.

2) going to high end area also means you need Gold, without playing the game, you obviously do not get any drop, hence where do you get the gold? possibly this could lead to people wanting to buy in game gold from illegally party?

but... I don't mind them because they could come in handy sometime when I am really lazy to do a mission on my 10th character for the 100th time (expression only)...

Malice Black · Jan 22, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Running should be eliminated and GWEN is a good idea of how to do that with requiring faction points to be able to get the gear from there. If they had done that with Prophecies there wouldn't be that many people buying runs to Droks. Bring back the key system as well like Factions introduced. That stopped a chitload of running through the content and I liked it best. They should also implement faction points required to buy weapons from the weaponsmiths as well. This prevents lowbies from getting those maxed weapons for 5 plat and a handful of resources.

#1 - No thanks.

#2 - If Anet didn't like the Droks run they wouldn't have made Loners pass accessible.

#3 - Playing through once is enough for some of us. I have a limited attention span, and I get bored easily. I've played through the game twice, and doing it the second time nearly killed me.

Lowbies??

To stop people getting max items, you'd have to stop trade...good luck with that.

Heimdallw32 · Jan 22, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

I have no problem with runners. Only thing that gets to me is this more recent (as of Nightfall) trend of people calling ANYTHING that involves "doing something" a "run". Such as doing missions that require combat (many do)...that isn't "running"...unless you can solo it all, then sure, I guess. But most of these people charging money to "run" through combat-heavy missions...well, they don't solo, they just charge people for the "honor" to party with such an "elite" player. Which is a crock, if you ask me. Because A: It's not a RUN if the entire party is helping you, and B: it's not a run if you're not...well, RUNNING. xD

Call it "doing mission" or "helping with mission for money" etc, go nuts. But don't say you're "running" vizunah square or something because it's a lie, unless you can solo it without heros or henchies. Sanctum Cay: a run. Arborstone: NOT a run.

People running from one location to another are runners of course. But yeah, overall, I have no problem with people helping other people for a fee. If you have skill/talent/knowledge, sure, make money off it. Why not?

Anyway. /rant off (regarding non-run missions)